Episode 27: Listener List Discussion

In this episode, we will be discussing two army lists that listeners have submitted to us. We talk about small tweaks to the lists and discuss some strategies on how to play each one.  The goal is not to write a new list, but to apply what we talk about on the table top.The Battlehosts Podcast

Show Notes

The Take-All-Comers List

Way back in Episode Two; what do you need to build a Take All Comers list.

You need an answer for different buckets of units:

  • Heavy infantry (3+ and 2+)
  • Light infantry (horde)
  • Light armor (12 below)
  • Heavy Armor (13+), super heavy vehicles
  • Monstrous/Gargantuan Creatures
  • Fliers

You need to be able to deal with these kinds of lists:

  • Gunline (Tau, some Eldar)
  • Drop pod army (Marines)
  • Assault heavy (Orks, Space Wolves)
  • Death Stars
  • MSU (Battle Company)
  • Add in Psychic heavy Demon armies

Building a Competitive List

In Episode 24, we talked about what you should have in a competitive list. You should include:

  • Objective grabbing
  • Some board control
  • Ignores cover
  • Redundancy
  • Flexible units, that can take on multiple threats or do multiple roles

You need a plan to survive the first several turns and to grab objectives mid to late game.

List building and Meta

When evaluating lists, there is a concept of efficiency: a unit needs to be really good at its role “for the points.”

What is a Meta? Everything you do you should consider who you play.

Patrick Sarto’s Eldar lists

He is the only Eldar player in his area, and plays against mostly Space Marines and Chaos.

Does not own Jetbikes or Warp Spiders and when he takes D-Weapons he gets some grumbling; he does not want to be “that guy.”

Eldar Craftworlds  (1747 of 1750pts)

  • Farseer
  • Spiritseer
  • 5 Striking Scorpions , Exarch with Claw and Scorpion Chainsword
  • 5 Wraithguard with Wraithcannon
    • Wave Serpent with Shuriken Cannon, Twin-linked Eldar missile launchers
  • 10 Dire Avengers, Exarch with Power weapon and Shimmershield
    • Wave Serpent with Shuriken Cannon, Twin-linked Brightlances
  • 10 Dire Avengers, Exarch with Power weapon and Shimmershield
    • Wave Serpent with Shuriken Cannon, Twin-linked Brightlances
  • 10 Guardian Defenders, Platform with Scatter Laser, Warlock with Singing Spear
    • Wave Serpent with Shuriken Cannon, Twin-linked Brightlances
  • Hemlock Wraithfighter
  • 1 Falcon with Brightlance, Shuriken Cannon

Patrick has also played the following:

Eldar Craftworlds (1747pts)

  • Eldrad Ulthran
  • Spiritseer
  • 5 Striking Scorpions , Exarch with Claw and Scorpion Chainsword
  • Wraithguard 5x Wraithcannon
  • Wraithguard 5x Wraithcannon
  • 4 x 5 Dire Avengers, Exarch with Power weapon and Shimmershield
  • 10 Guardian Defenders, Platform with Scatter Laser, Warlock with Singing Spear
  • Hemlock Wraithfighter
  • 5 Swooping Hawks, Exarch with Power Weapon, Sunrifle
  • 3 Vaul’s Wrath Support Battery with D-cannons
  • 2 War Walkers with Starcannons

Alan Scheiner’s Ultramarine List

Wants to run Double Demi-Company. Tau and Eldar are what he sees a lot in his Meta.

Space Marines (1850/1850)

Battle Demi-Company

  • Captain with Primarch’s Wrath
  • 5 Devastator Squad with 4 Grav Cannons and Grav Amps, Razorback with twin-linked Heavy Bolter
  • Ironclad Dreadnought with Meltagun and Power Fist and Storm Bolter, Drop Pod
  • Land Speeder with Heavy Flamer and Typhoon Missie Launcher
  • 5 Tactical Squad, Razorback with Lascannon and Twin-Linked Plasma Gun
  • 5 Tactical Squad, Razorback with Assault Cannon
  • 5 Tactical Squad, Razorback with Twin-Linked Lascannon

Battle Demi-Company

  • Chaplain
  • 5 Devastator Squad with 4 Grav Cannons and Grav Amps in a Drop Pod
  • Attack Bike with Heavy Bolter
  • 5 Tactical Squad, Razorback with Twin-Linked Lascannon
  • 5 Tactical Squad, Razorback with Assault Cannon
  • 5 Tactical Squad, Razorback with Twin-Linked Lascannon

Auxiliary 1st Company Task Force

  • 5 Cataphractii Terminator squad with Lightning claws, Sergeant with Power Sword.
  • 5 Sternguard Veteran Squad, Drop Pod
  • 5 Vanguard Veteran Squad, Jump Packs

 

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